#28 DFQ
So far we have looked at PTV, how it arose and how it spread via the medieval church into the Western education system.
We saw how this truth-driven education system with its emphasis on ‘the search for certainty’ was exported to Australia and around the world, and, how your own brain may have become infected.
The Effects of PTV
If this is so, how does PTV work to inhibit your abilities as a sovereign thinker. Well, as a cognitive disease, PTV in your brain can produce a number of deleterious effects. Let’s look at just four manifestations of PTV:
- Brain Vain (opinion pride and conceit)
- Righteous and Sightless (consequence blindness)
- Space Glutton (output-mania)
- Lazy Critic (mistake-phobia)
Brain Vain
A brain vain thinker is one who is suffering from opinion pride. This 
PTV-infected brainuser is unable to see a better way of looking at things. Because the brain vain thinker is so proud of her or his own opinion they find it difficult to do any other kind of thinking but to defend it.
The more intelligent the brain vain thinker, the more they may suffer from this kind of cognitive conceit. Very bright thinkers who are PTV-infected may be only using their brainpower to defend their opinion. They are unable to escape from their viewpoint to look for a much better one.
Righteous and Sightless
The righteous brain is blind to consequences. PTV may have so incapacitated a True Believer that he is unable to see the results of his actions. In the belief that they are “morally right” any action is justified by the Righteous and Sightless, regardless of what follows. This is a very dangerous condition and so often fatal.
Millions have rushed headlong into death because ‘God is on our side’. Millions have been killed because they are ‘infidels’, ‘Jews’, ‘Catholics’ or ‘Protestants’. “I-am-right-and-you-are-wrong” is the hallmark of the Righteous and Sightless condition.
In 1994, John Paul II urged all Roman Catholic Cardinals to reflect on this aspect of the Church’s history. He wrote to them asking them to seize the unique beginning of the new millennium to recognise the “dark side of its history”. He asked: “How can one remain silent about the many forms of violence perpetrated in the name of the faith–wars of religion, tribunals of the Inquisition and other forms of violations of the rights of persons.”
Space Glutton
In a meeting, the space glutton always takes up considerably more than his or her fair share of airtime. Space gluttons may suffer from output mania, the inability to shut-up.
Gathering input by listening to the opinions of others is an important cognitive skill which is crippled in the space glutton. PTV may allow the thinker to wreak such enthusiasm for his or her own ideas that he or she is quite unable to listen to others.
In business, much creativity and productivity is lost in meetings due to those suffering from this condition. This condition is disastrous for those in sales or in management.
Lazy Critic
Lazy critics suffer from mistake-phobia, the morbid fear of ever making a mistake. The PTV-infected brain has an aversion to ever being wrong. It comes from our medieval habit of looking at the world through the concept of “right” and “wrong” (not shared as much by other cultures like the Chinese).
When a sovereign thinker is about to try something new, he never really knows what will happen. There is always risk and uncertainty. This risk is enough to keep the mistake-phobiac hiding in inertia. As an effective disguise the mistake-phobiac often assumes the role of ‘the critic’.
Taking pot-shots from the relative safety of his bunker of reluctance, the lazy critic simply waits for another thinker to make a mistake and then the whingeing and whining begins.
These are a few of the cognitive conditions caused by PTV, there are many others. The purpose of the School of Thinking is to help brainusers deal with these conditions by designing and offering tools they can use.
Since 1979, SOT has developed a number of tools and strategies. You can see them at the SOT Dashboard for Thinkers. For example:
- ‘thinking caps’,
- ‘brain software’ and
- ‘memeplexes’.
The Brain Software
The SOT brain software is provided in Part Two of this training which begins in the coming lessons and is for you to use at school, at work, at home and at play.
SOT Brain Software consists of a dashboard or suite of four software codes for your brain. This SOT dashboard contains 15 mind-tools. These mind-tools can be used by the brainuser in an ever-widening repertoire of combinations to produce a virtually unlimited number of effects.
The SOT neuro-software is a four-part code:
SDNT CVSTOBVS QRH PRR
Each code or acronym stands for a specific piece of brain software which will be dealt with in the following chapters.
Once it is programmed into your brain, the neuroware helps to neutralize or by-pass PTV by giving you, the brainuser, a simple way to increase your awareness of the thinking strategies that are available to you in any situation that comes your way.
DFQ:
Over the next 24 hours, try to notice at least one example of each of the following:
- Brain Vain (opinion pride and conceit)
- Righteous and Sightless (consequence blindness)
- Space Glutton (output-mania)
- Lazy Critic (mistake-phobia).
February 19th, 2012 at 8:22 pm
A lot of the things we do are based on habit of doing things a certain way, but we should always be looking for a better way to do things. I am conscious of the above mentioned ptv’s through previous learning and try avoid them.
February 12th, 2012 at 8:09 am
Brain vain.
January 30th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Since my last 24 hours have been a bit quiet and reclusive I may stray from the time frame guidelines.
Brain vain: My wife and are were cooking together and I was convinced that I knew the best way to do a particular preparation. Although I insisted it would not work the way my wife wanted to do it, as we were within her domain, I yielded and lo and behold, the preparation came out perfectly. If I take a more general look at myself, I see that I don’t often fall prey to this condition, leading me to believe that I am very badly infected with it.
Righteous and Sightless: Believe it or not, in the same kitchen experience, there was another preparation that I was sure I could do in a different, and quicker, way than the cookbook directed. My wife yielded to my emphatic insistence and sure enough, the preparation was nothing short of a disaster. Again taking a more general look, I see that I have done certain things over the last few years that have had quite negative results, especially, although not exclusively, when I am trying to pursue a conversation in a particular way and due to my speaking without thinking enough about what I am going to say, get the opposite result of what I am trying to do.
Space glutton: The last 24 hours didn’t really yield much opportunity for me to exhibit this tendency. 35 years of marriage has allowed even my dull brain to realize that when my wife speaks, it is very worthwhile for me to listen. Years ago I performed a mauni-vrata, a vow of silence for 24 hours. I was astonished at how much I heard and learned by shutting off my mouth valve and so have been trying over the years to remember that when I’m with people.
Lazy critic: As the previously described kitchen experiences showed, and looking back at the number of mistakes I’ve made over my lifetime (who says that a googol is the largest number) I’m not sure I’m very affected by this one; of course this very thought might be another insistence of my brain vain infection.
January 27th, 2012 at 11:50 pm
I have noticed that I need to see the infectious disease physician. I must confess to have been an output maniac regarding some discussions with a friend of mine. Additionally, whilst travelling in the car with this friend I noticed that I was defensive when criticised by my friend for asking about directions and found that I had to remind myself to not get plugged in during the encounter. Suffered all of the sins above really.
January 25th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
I do quite a bit of the Brain Vanity stuff and have suffered from the Lazy Critic disease for the last couple of years. It’s a difficult hole from which to jump out, but I am trying and am hopefully on my way out…
January 13th, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Well to be honest, I don’t think my thinking falls into any of these 4 brain patterns. I believe my thoughts are well balanced and mostly intelligent……….
Oops – I think I just displayed ‘Brain Vain’!!??
January 12th, 2012 at 4:59 pm
I am well adjusted – I have all of these traits in equal measure!!!
January 11th, 2012 at 10:39 am
Oh dear -recognized myself in earlier times in Brain Vain and Lazy Critic Though I wonder about my programmer son – who displays the characteristics of the latter as he makes hates making mistakes – probably spent too much time trying to fix them I guess! So perhaps there are some uses for the characteristics.
January 5th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
The 4 type of PTV reduces the ability to think beyond.
It is very interesting to read but at the same the most difficult to practise.
every one one way or ther suffer from this virus.
December 26th, 2011 at 5:33 am
Can PTV be an independently developing virus? If there was no Plato, no Aristotle, no religion, could PTV still develop on its own?
I have come up with a number of very good ideas which I have carried forward into a practical situation. The natural tendency then is to defend those ideas in the face of other’s later suggestions rather than the examination of the newer ideas from a totally non-biased view-point.
December 23rd, 2011 at 11:13 am
We’re all infected with PTV in various ways. Becoming aware of it and dealing with it is the first step to success.
December 22nd, 2011 at 4:24 pm
I think many of us make these mistakes, but maybe we can make them less frequently if we become more aware of them and their consequences
December 21st, 2011 at 6:12 am
Being able to recognize them in oneself is a huge step for getting rid of them. It’s like actually seeing you are infected!
December 4th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Yes, I definitely suffer from all of these at times!
November 30th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Yes these concepts are all over the place, even in self. ooooo
November 24th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Very interesting lesson. I can already see Brain Vain and Lazy Critic in some of my behaviour. It will be an instuctive 24 hours looking for these characteristics in myself and others.
November 23rd, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Feels more and more that I can see that the world is filled with:
- Brain Vain (opinion pride and conceit)
- Righteous and Sightless (consequence blindness)
- Space Glutton (output-mania)
- Lazy Critic (mistake-phobia).
November 14th, 2011 at 6:53 am
With any problem there should be a focus. Goals and strategy, attempt to plot a course form point a to point b to pont c.
PTV thinking starts with a point of view and plots a strategy to prove it as truth, without any regard for a different path or outcome.
Thinkers with vision, have a direction or core ideal they want to direct their focus to and are not troubled by the way that vision plays out.
The route to creative thinking does not have a strategy, but multiple paths it can follow, based on the best and most flexible way of achieving the focus.
October 20th, 2011 at 2:28 am
We are sensory beings. We are cognitive beings. Self-Actualization requires awareness of self, environment, interdependencies, interactions, interpretations, different attitudes, different approaches, different expressions and different outcomes, different expectations. Time will tell what works in the context of the relationship of what is invested and what is gained, what is right and what is wrong, what is better and what is worse. If “it is what it is” and “people are what they are” and everything changes, then becoming more concerned and focused on what is learned from these experiences with the who, what, where, when, how and why of the experience, is a reason to be fascinated by these differences rather than afraid, and exposure to experiences and the endless offerings of that exposure becomes the measure, the value. Life … live it. Paradoxically speaking, fair is not fair, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, without good there would be no bad, without wrong there would be no right … the pendulum swings … we never enter the same river twice. We can not escape from our associative nature, but we can change how we associate things, what we measure and how we measure it. Understanding and appreciating things as “different and the same” before they are “better than or worse than” is necessary and sufficient.
October 13th, 2011 at 5:09 am
example of each of the following:
- Brain Vain (opinion pride and conceit)
- Righteous and Sightless (consequence blindness)
- Space Glutton (output-mania)
- Lazy Critic (mistake-phobia).
Politicians in the state where I live often can be found to exhibit one or another of these tendencies.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
I see two interesting questions in this connection:
How can I deal with my own display of PTV infection?
How can I deal with display of PTV infection of other people?
How can I deal with my own display of PTV infection?
1. recognize it
2. allow me it only as an homoeopathic dose
How can I deal with display of PTV infection of other people?
1. recognize it
2. be tolerant (remember: I’m infected too)
3. take the core of good sense and advantages of their vision
despite of their PTV infecting
4. don’t arque
5. ask the very question I’m interested
October 2nd, 2011 at 11:15 am
Brain Vain: Executives refusing to recognize problems despite many talented workers leaving the company.
Righteous and Sightless: People can’t see problems that exist and their consequences. Thinking everything is ok since renewal successful.
Space Glutton: To much talking in a meeting by the one person.
September 29th, 2011 at 8:00 am
I have noticed all three in varying degrees and situations. I have from time to time blamed my teacher hat – where the classroom model – teacher is right,,, students are wrong- is projected in adult conversations. You want to share and become a space Gluton. I noticed lazy critics who throw ball at people they don’t like or to get even.
The above lesson is profound and could produce many BVS if continually reviewed for twenty one days.
September 26th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Brain Vain, Righteous & Sightless, Space Glutton, and Lazy Critic. Should not take long, I’ll likely have committed the last two by the end of my first meeting this morning and the balance by end of business today. I’m going to keep a corner of my notebook clear and keep track for a week. It will be interesting to know if I know myself – Lazy critic should be top of the league tables.
September 23rd, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Brain Vain,
I, myself, could have suffered from this. As a result of my improved thinking, I’ve been way too opionated. But have taken great steps to listen to other and see their poing of view. It is difficult but neccesary.
Righteous and Sightless,
This is just about everywhere, just tune on to any news channel and you’ll see plenty of these type.
Space Glutton
I know these type as well, saying more that they ever need to. The more they say, the more the need arrises for them to say more. Never satiesfied to hear their own voices.
Lazy Critic,
Happy to say, I am slowly qonquering this aspect of me. It is amazing though how many people are willing to shoot down other’s ideas, without raising another alternative. All they are there for is to bring others down. That is crippling to the thinkers out there.
September 23rd, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Brain Vain (opinion, pride and conceit)
I believe more than half of the individuals who have their own TV shows, not for entertainment purposes but for their point of view are excellent examples of these.
Righteous and Sightless (consequence, blindness)
In the belief that they are “morally right” any action is justified by the Righteous and Sightless, regardless of what follows. This is a very dangerous condition and so often fatal, and not merely in the physical sense. Their teachings and beliefs prevent youngsters and even adults who mature, to miss living life to the fullest due to some fallacy they themselves never truthfully challenged.
Space Glutton (output mania)
I am reserving this one especially for business management. As a small business consultant, I can’t count how often people refused to encourage or allow true teamwork, primarily because it would mean their ideas and thoughts might be overridden with more palatable ones from smarter people. There is a fallacy here, so many owners and managers believed in; that they were in charge. May be so, but they certainly were not in control of how their subordinates actually thought and could have contributed, were they given that option.
Lazy Critic (mistake phobia)
Taking pot-shots from the relative safety of his bunker of reluctance, the lazy critic simply waits for another thinker to make a mistake and then the whingeing begins. There are simply too many of these and they contribute little of no value. They simply think they are supporting the owner and manager who believes they are in charge.
September 20th, 2011 at 7:39 am
BV – My cousin, condescendingly telling me whats right and whats wrong and yet contradicts herself daily.
R&S – My dad, righteous in everyway but very thankful to him for it, keeps me on track in reference to culture.
SG – My friend, who doesn’t like to told what to do and will constantly make excuses to make herself the exception to any rule.
LC – My inlaw, who has no idea about putting pen to paper OR walking her talk, but likes to criticise everyone else for their smallest shortcomings.
C (all of the above), Me. Even though I cannot be put into any one category, I have traits of all of them, although, my courage, skills and experiences trigger my identification of shortcomings and furthermore prompts me to step back firstly and then make changes based on my BVS secondly.
September 13th, 2011 at 6:34 am
In order to learn how to deal with these personality types I would agree that one needs to be able to identify each type. Knowing how to respond is the key to this exercise. What will you do with each type as you work through the experience?
August 15th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Will do- I can easily identify Lazy Critic thinking in myself- It’s handy having a way of identifying how I’m thinking and also that there are more effective ways of thinking.
August 15th, 2011 at 10:14 am
I had a phone conversation with a space glutton and when he would ask me a question he couldn’t help himself and still wouldn’t let me finish! Wow! A close relative is righteous and sightless. What I liked was the outcome of a conversation in the last few hours. When I talked to her was I was very careful in how I responded and I think accidentally she took my pauses before answering as me considering her statements, but I was just taking time to consider my answer but the effect it had is she felt listened to, so then she listened to me when I tried to give a more considered view. I don’t think I ‘converted’ her from being righteous and sightless but I think she might have heard me and she made a couple of concessions in her righteous and sightless ranting.
August 7th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
I noticed that my foolish, and unwise mind is so very entrenched in habits that derail good thinking. It was not hard over 24 hours to notice my failings. Now after several days of self-awareness, I look for practical ways to swap out the furniture in my brain for less comfortable but more effective living.
~Lance
July 28th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
I am fully aware of myself falling into the tracks that are deeply rutted in my brains thought pathways. I am also becoming more and more away when I slip into a rut and am hopefully getting better at pulling myself out. I particularly see in myself Brain Vain and Lazy critic. I am definitely concerned of making a mistake. I also am studying and am fully aware of the space glutton in the class who must believe that the class is the for his sole benefit.
July 20th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Will do. I should have some interesting findings.
July 6th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
It is amazing how powerful it is because as soon as you start looking for it you see it everywhere in myself and in others the exciting thing is awareness and using the software to change it.
June 24th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
Well that list looks like the evening news – it has a mix of opinion, consequence blindness, media gluttons, and experts.
I see these in myself from time to time, and realise how unpleasant they are in actual real time experience. The lazy critic waits to ambush my friends and family regularly by point scoring- time to retire ‘him’ off!
June 3rd, 2011 at 10:11 pm
I’ve noticed many of these manifestations, with people I interact with, some of them even with myself.
I am learning here an these patterns will change, some have already. The screams of the dying PTV are difficult to bear, but shall be conquered. I am continuing with these lessons with in great anticipation of being able to improve my thinking.
May 15th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
I have recognized in my self to witnes the Brain Vain concept, mainly in my daily life. I t has been this that infect my recognizing side of me by always been at the wrong side and not the right. I put in strong opinion to do the will of my Brain power to overcome others.
May 11th, 2011 at 11:18 am
I have witnessed some of this thinking behaviour in myself, the upside of it is I am now aware of it!
May 10th, 2011 at 12:59 am
I was a witness to the recent elections in Singapore. The opposition for the very first time won a major constituency. There were instances of brain vain, righteous and sightless, space glutton and lazy critic displayed in sound bites and behavior both by victor and loser.
April 22nd, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Unfortunately, I cannot say I have got rid of these four demons,but I know I am ever moving forward at maybe a snails pace,but the light is shining bright at the end of the tunnel. I know that light will only ever be a beacon but serving me to become better and better but never to reach that light and fulfillment.Fulfillment signifies that I have reached the top but in reality I know that state must never be allowed to exist as the bvs is not compatible with it. What I have achieved so far is to become a better listener and to try to take on board, what is said This is the greatest hurdle for me at the moment and I can see other people appreciate my better listening skills.Instead of nodding or shaking my head for what I think is the appropriate moment.
April 18th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Each of these traits is obvious; and demonstrated by some of our politicians when they voluntarily put themselves on public display in the media. For example, a determination to bring down a government if his own special interest is not granted. On the ABC programme Q and A, Brain Vain, Space Glutton, and Lazy Critic are alive, well and thriving.
April 8th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Well, I managed to swallow my brain vain this morning over the pronunciation of a word. And, I managed to do that prior to reading this lesson, so I will pat myself on the back. I’m certainly guilty of all of the above, and definitely my weakest point is being a Space Glutton. I am a chatter-box and can waffle on. I am trying to shut up and listen more these days. One needs to become aware of a problem first, then you can work on it.
Thanks for listing the weak points to look out for.
April 7th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
BV -I work with several PH.D’s and over and they minimise others input because “what qualifications have they got ?”
RS- administrators who hold up every thing because they have to go by the book
SG-Two people who dominate every meeting and consequently on one occasion recently lost a good contract because of overriding someone who had something of real value to say
LC – sometimes myself unless” I catch myself on”
March 6th, 2011 at 8:53 am
I just realized that I totally fit into the Lazy critic criteria. Not that I deliberately criticize others actually I withhold myself from judging other’s mistakes and always encourage others and tell tehm not to worry about mistakes. but I am very judgmental of myself and am so scared of making mistakes that I keep quiet or refrain myself from doing certain things. I have, however, greatly improved myself as I throw myself into scary situations where I might make mistakes for the mere reason to force myself out of this phobia mindset. And although it has helped me overcome many challenges I thought I could never have before it is still a constant struggle for me. I am afraid to speak out, to share my ideas, and I have so many just too scared of making a mistake or looking foolish. As the saying goes: When a fool speaks he removes all doubts” But and although I know I am not a fool and have accomplished a lot already I just wished I could come to a state where I ‘ll be freed from this phobia. And to think that this kind of phobia was PTV induced is mind boggling…
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:53 am
all four are po’s. what is useul inthem and how can we move forward and design new ways.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
BV: A former partner who is otherwise very nice – I suspect it is really an insecurity bubbling up to the surface.
R&S: Various god botherers, and quite a few of the less talented academics I have known.
SG: One neighbor and every dinner party bore in history.
LC: Me, for starters (once again, insecurity showing through). In fact, this is one of my least attractive traits.
February 13th, 2011 at 9:02 am
I recognize in myself, at various times of my life, under the brain vain scenario. One of the most effective ways to get rid of this tendency is to realize that you have probably been more wrong in your life than right. This has happened to me and so now I am almost reluctant to express any strong opinions whatsoever. It has however, made me stop, ask questions and be more thoughtful in my approach whenever I am in a situation when issues are being discussed and I disagree with someone.
February 4th, 2011 at 10:20 am
BV – partner
R&S – staff member asking for preferential treatment
SG – opps – me
LC – participant in a meeting
January 19th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
Brain Vain (opinion pride and conceit)
I notice that when I succeed at something difficult at first I feel overawed and then quickly minimize what I’ve done and act as though acould always do it . The pride is that I did it not the effort but some strange intrinsic quality about me .
- Righteous and Sightless (consequence blindness)
This is common every where in anti gay comments , racist comments and so on . It comes from stereo typing with out giving thought to what wer’e labelling .
- Space Glutton (output-mania) it;’s is to react than act with discipline or thought . Busy ness is not real action .
- Lazy Critic (mistake-phobia
everywhere all the time couchpotatoes . Sports ‘experts ‘
January 13th, 2011 at 2:14 am
I thinks instead of looking these attributes in others, it will be much helpful to be aware of personal inclinations towards four disorders of PTV. I feel is is very easy to categorize others on basis of display of these attributes, and is difficult to catch oneself operating from software infected with PTV…:)
December 28th, 2010 at 9:36 am
In just a few minutes of reading, I found myself guilty of all four in various situations. Now I’m interested in who is not guilty of all four at times and in different circumstances…that’s the one I need to study most.
November 25th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Brain Vain – a boss who could not accept that her underlings might have a better way of performing a perfectly simple task than she has, to the point where her defence became completely irrational!
Righteous and Sightless – a management team who are determined to power ahead with radical change, and blame others when the new strategies don’t work.
Space Glutton – customers this time, who ask a question and then literally do not stop talking long enough to have it answered.
Lazy Critic – I’ve been guilty of this a lot myself in the past (as well as the other three of course), but far less frequently these days!
October 25th, 2010 at 7:48 am
Also guilty of all four at times, I’m hoping this exercise will make me more aware of what triggers it so that I can do my very best to avoid it. I have noticed all four types around the work space. The prime example of Lazy Critic to me has to be the Australian media.
October 21st, 2010 at 9:16 am
Yes I am guilty of all 4; but instead of putting myself in prison I shall free myself; but I have to think through a set of strategies for avoiding the four without focussing on them (which would thereby exacerbate them)
October 15th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
I have noticed Lazy Critic in me before and have endeavoured to correct it. 1,2,& 3 i can say I know people friends and family who have these and i will be on the lookout for them this week.
September 18th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
brain vain : watching political campanye
righteous : fanaticme relegion speech
space glutton : people say “going where the wind blows”
lazy critic : just say ” yes sir” people
September 4th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Brain Vain & Righteous and Sightless: One cannot help but notice these in the Australian Liberal Party Leader Tony Abbot. When he speaks you get an impression that he believes he knows everything.
Space glutton: There is a colleague at work who does not stop. He has an opinion about almost everything, and does not seem to mind that he stifles other staff members from making contributions to the debate.
Lazy critic: I just tuned into one talk back radio station in Melbourne when I heard the shock jock on duty leading a discussion in which he criticised Kevin Rudd for not having done enough to campaign for labour’s re-election in the recent election.
September 1st, 2010 at 11:35 am
Brain Vain (opinion pride and conceit)
Righteous and Sightless (consequence blindness)
Space Glutton (output-mania)
Lazy Critic (mistake-phobia)
I am guilty of all at one time or other. Now that I see the flaw, am I mentally reprogramed enough to change it?
Step 1: recognise the flaw – check
Step 2: make a conscious effort to keep the blinkers off and try harder- check
Step 3: when step 2 is mastered the subconscious with then become an automatic trigger – (watch this space)
August 2nd, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Brain Vain
Seeing this in the current Australian political debate.
Righteous and Sightless (consequence blindness)
Also seeing this in the current political contest.
Space Glutton
I was attending an oases graduate program today and did a bit of space hogging.
Lazy Critic
Immediately comes to mind Australian television and radio journalists.
July 16th, 2010 at 8:44 am
I am aware od these things and always actively try to control them. I do not like to critiise but what can you do if many choose the well trodden path and place obstacles in innovation.
July 3rd, 2010 at 11:50 pm
- Brain Vain (opinion pride and conceit)
Attempting to justify an options trade with a friend at university, there was a better way to think about it, I wanted to save face and instead agrued my idea.
- Righteous and Sightless (consequence blindness)
Change managment took place at work and I chose the righteous approach, in the long run, it was a poor choice.
- Space Glutton (output-mania)
I talk to much when I’m around my girl friend, sometimes she doesn’t get a word in.
- Lazy Critic (mistake-phobia).
Recently I found myself thinking this way towards people I dont like.
June 28th, 2010 at 12:49 am
Will Do!
June 15th, 2010 at 6:33 am
Seems to be the predominant OS for everyone yours truly included.
June 12th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
It depentds.Who is around You.Their is a time when Our Brain use
all of mentioned brainways and sometime just part of Your Brain energy.
June 9th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Eureka!
June 8th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Without waiting the 24 hours, I recognize them all in myself at some stage. Will keep on the lookout and report back.
May 24th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
yes I can recognise all these in myself and in those around me. I can also rcognise those prepared to try something different, to take a risk, to listen and to admit they’re wrong.
Something positive to build on. There’s hope yet!
April 27th, 2010 at 11:54 am
1 myself
2 some friends
3 some friends
4 some friends
April 22nd, 2010 at 4:12 pm
At times all in myself depending how restricted i was feeling.
March 11th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
I have seen brain vain in others and the lazy critic in myself.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:14 am
I have noticed the lazy critic in me
February 19th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Each and everyday I run into Brain Vain and Sightless people,I’m working on Hoyt for now and hopfully I can help someone else soon.
February 18th, 2010 at 6:25 am
I’ve noticed all of these from the people I have associated with.
February 16th, 2010 at 7:34 am
I can see parts of these in myself….but that is human nature….I just need to CVS2BVS….
February 9th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
My example of Brain Vain in the last 24 hours is fowllowing:
One hour ago my house suddently was out of power, I first thought is power overloaded or shortcut but finanly it has been found that no any reason known but just need to push up the power switch again.
We used to giving us many options for answering the issues met but we may forget that in most cases the real answers we never know.
February 7th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
This statement struck me as important: “gathering input by listening to the opinions of others is an important cognitive skill which is crippled in the space glutton.”
I have seen the ‘space glutton’ common in senior leaders and/or specialists.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
With a single lap of the office I could spot several people that could be categorised into each area.
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:31 am
I have recognised these “defects” in several people I know….sadly….the people are real human beings .
A Managing Director ,in sole charge…the ONLY shareholder, founder and builder of his own business over 15 years ,recently “asked” for input from a team of representatives regarding a 13 page document he wanted used as a sales presentation and business offer.
He wanted …”their views” before sending it out to all concerned as a form of directive.
The Universal response was that 13 pages was too long and 3 pages max would be more than enough……they were confident of their ability to abbreviate it effectively.
To my utter amazement ,he rejected their ideas, and “after serious consideration” decided that every word he had written MUST be included.
In this person…I think we have ALL FOUR features ……
Brain Vain…..
Righteous and Sightless…with the attendant blindness…..
Space Glutton…nobody else had input
Mistake-Phobia …everything was IMPORTANT….without every word of 13 pages…something was WRONG with it.
This is a truthful account in my own experience ……
December 5th, 2009 at 12:41 am
The neuro-software is expressed in a four-part code:
SDNT CVSTOBVS QRH PRR.
i m trying 2 implement
1. Yes (family member).
2. Yes (religious acquaintance).
3. Yes (professional acquaintance).
4. Yes (family member).
November 18th, 2009 at 4:50 am
I think all of us from time to time fall under some of these labels. And this happens because we are human beings, which means we are not perfect. Now, the real challenge lies in accepting this fact first, and then be willing to learn so as change the mindset and attitude for a better one. Summing up – CVSTOBVS.
October 29th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Depending on situation and the subject under discussion whether it be politics, sport, work, family, or religion etc etc, everyone would fall into all these categories from time to time. I think the real challenge is to recognize it when it is occurring and do something about it.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
I will sure do that. But, wait a minute, by what standards i’m i to classify things as such? Why should I? what is an inhibition? what are the possible limits of people’s capabilities?
October 12th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
over the past 24 hours i have come across a brain vain court registrar who knows supposedly more than lawyers.i have also had a discussion with an islamist who has exhibited signs of a righteous sightless person.at a meeting with some bureaucrats i met a senior civil servant who was clearly a space glutton.at a project staff meeting i again had a terrible encounter with another lazy critic.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
LOL after a discussion about a meeting at work this morning, I can answer this straight away.
- Brain Vain (opinion pride and conceit) Meeting this morning.
- Righteous and Sightless (consequence blindness). Previous boss, the self justification of his actions was unbelievable.
- Space Glutton (output-mania). General Manager, he dismisses you when he is finished talking and raises his voice and talks over you when you want to speek.
- Lazy Critic (mistake-phobia). A past employee, “the informal leader”. He was quick to make a criticism of the company or any changes happening and sway departmental opinion to his view. Just as quick to run and hide when the going got tough or was asked to work.
September 10th, 2009 at 11:54 am
There’s plenty of examples of these in my workplace, though I fortunately don’t have many meetings in the next 24 hours. Politicians suffer from many of these problems. In the past I got particularly irritated by a person (Lazy Critic) who would wait until the end of our voluntary meetings having contributed nothing and then spend ten minutes or so telling us how worthless our meetings were and ask when were we going to do something useful so he could report back to his people that he hadn’t wasted his time for the past hour. He criticised the issues we had chosen to address at the meeting, but when asked what he felt we should be addressing, his suggestions were highly complex issues for the organisation, that our group had no direct control over. They were worthwhile issues certainly, but he seemed to be waiting for us to give him the solution. I’ve run into righteous and sightless people or perhaps they are brain vain as well, who’ve caused untold damage to people and refuse to acknowledge any responsibility because “that’s just your point of view” and “my point of view is the only one that matters to me”. Space gluttony I’ve observed comes from narcissism or at times insecurity that one needs to appear competent even if one doesn’t have any answers. There is a fear of saying “I don’t know” or “I don’t have anything to contribute to the dialogue.”
August 29th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
1.grandfather
2.my aunty(religious)
3.myself
4.class mate
August 21st, 2009 at 9:49 am
Unfortunately, spotted straight up not just in colleagues – but myself!
August 13th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
1. Yes (family member).
2. Yes (religious acquaintance).
3. Yes (professional acquaintance).
4. Yes (family member).
August 5th, 2009 at 8:30 am
To be completely honest I do my best to NOT to seek out evidence of these – I consciously look for the BEST in people and in doing so it seems to come up more often than not. (which of course could be no. 1 above) space glutton, me again when I get in front of an audience – working on that one too. lazy critic – one of my clients “yes,but – the thing is etc.” righteous and sightless” – possibly my daughter in her continuing assertion that her capacity to THINK helps her, when she appears very set in her thinking.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Brain Vain (opinion pride and conceit) I have noticed that Asian managers are prone to BV – possibly cultural.
Righteous and Sightless (consequence blindness) My minister – God bless him
Space Glutton (output-mania) Am guilty – some sort of a insecurity methinks.
Lazy Critic (mistake-phobia) My partner.
July 15th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Brain Vain (opinion pride and conceit) -Our superannuation fund manager – The stock markets have had a bad run recently but I think 20% per annum is possible in future.
Righteous and Sightless (consequence blindness) – Dont worry about it – It will never happen
Space Glutton (output-mania) – A colleague wrote a 22 page executive summary on a 100 page document and constantly “hoovers” up data and regurgitates it all verbatim with no assimilation or understanding or re-interpretation of the data.
Bill
- Lazy Critic (mistake-phobia) – not giving any opinion at all just dressing everything up in yes minister speak
July 6th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
BV – colleages in their own approach to clients
RS – relatives dismissing evidence against spinal manipulation on children
SG – an old colleage
LC – its so easy to do nothing well and sit on the side lines and commentate, this one is a pet dislike I notice many
June 13th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Brain Vain: A local prosecuting attorney recently wrote a guest editorial in the newspaper proclaiming with certainty that the death penalty in the US is a great deterrent to crime. I’m pretty certain that US law schools teach that correlation doesn’t equal causation, but this guy’s after a seat in Congress. That means the rules don’t apply, and he’ll say anything he thinks he can get away with.
Righteous and Sightless: I see some of this in Barack Obama, though less than I did in George Bush. That’s sadly ironic coming from a man who expresses a desire for open, thoughtful dialog. Those who criticize Obama’s policies or choices are “wrong,” “ridiculous,” or some other version of “in the way,” in much the same way the Bush administration viewed everyone as either “for us or against us.” Those kinds of dismissive and adversarial statements by necessity limit options, and therefore, solutions.
Space Glutton: Yeah. I like to talk.
Lazy Critic: I do this more frequently than I’d like, though I try to wait for colossal and foreseeable blunders before donning the critic hat.
May 23rd, 2009 at 7:51 am
Brain vain: often find that I think I have found a good design solution then tend to use that for every situation ignoring other input
Righteous and sightless: find that I tend to think my design solutions are better than other
Space Glutton: like to put forward my opinions, not so patient with others
Lazy Critic: easy to critique other designs without having wrestled with the design process
May 18th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Im guilty of both BV and Stace Gluttony, often defending that by saying “Im saying something because no one else is”. I think each of us are ‘guilty’ of each of these to some point but at least we can recognise that in ourselves and try to be better. I think there may be much to learn in this section.
May 16th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Well, it’s been budget week, so there are plenty of examples of these around – especially among our elected representatives and journalists! The media is akin to Typhoid Mary in PTV. Joe Hockey is PTV personified. Might I also add Andrew Bolt as someone who has built a career on PTV. Every episode of QandA seems to degenerate into a clash of these PTV symptoms. However, to give more specific examples:
Brain Vain – a team member who wants to produce the same product repeatedly without any scope for customisation
Righteous and Sightless – a team leader who closes discussions about possibilities and methodology because it’s their way or the highway
Space Glutton – I was involved in a committee where the staff member charged with organising the committee was a space glutton. He just talked over the top of committee members (all volunteers) when we trying to move our agenda forward
Lazy Critic – I have colleagues who conduct their business in this way. They have positioned themselves to react to other people’s efforts. They are hypercritical but have little to offer as an alternative. It’s hard to take them seriously sometimes because of the endless litany.
And of course I do these things too. Probably more often than I care to admit!
May 15th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
I’m mainly guilty of BV, my motto has been for many years “I’m always right unless proven the contrary” but some I don’t let people with different ideas prove even discuss their point. I still believe I’m always right but now I’m open to here others ideas and if they are a better truth than mine I change my truth.
From the other three the R & S I think is the more difficult to identify because these people in front of you agrees with you with a smile but when given the chance they’ll blow out of the way.
May 11th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
It’s nice to have easy names for these human failings…
I’m a little BV and a lot of LC – easy to spot when put like this.
R&S – locally I think of tradies & p-platers who drive V8s like idiots “as their right”, often with sadly fatal results.
SG – agree with many here, they are always in meetings but many are on Facebook and Twitter and they are as verbose in “print” as in person.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:05 pm
This DFQ wasn’t all that hard for me.
Brain Vain – Yes.
Righteous & sightless – No, don’t think so.
Space Glutton. Guilty as charged.
Lazy critic – Absolutely.
My remedy is trying to switch to two parts listening & one part talking.
April 23rd, 2009 at 8:22 am
I work along side around 80 people from various cultures so it wasn’t to difficult to spot one of each. Iv’e been guilty of a little Space Gluttony but have toned it down, but I work with one of the biggest Space Gluttons of all time. There are certain cultures at work that are more prone to being Lazy Critics, they seem to have a fear of failure so as not to feel embarrassed.
April 22nd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
I realised in myself that i have on occasion, shown Brain Vain qualities. In my previous company, the Managing Director was hugely affected by the Righteous and Sightless bug. In meeting I too do recollect many space gluttons, trying to push their opinions of what they consider right onto everyone.
It is amazing to analyse people to see their deep lying PTV infections.
April 22nd, 2009 at 11:36 am
Well, I’m guilty of at least one of them myself. I’m partially a Lazy Critic. I’m not out looking for other people to mistakes so I can jump on them. But, I do not like mistakes and I do try to avoid them. Or, more accurately, I try to learn the lesson in advance so that I do it right the first time. I try to avoid the mistakes others have made. I’m not sure if that’s good or bad.
But, I know that some people take it as bad. I’m a question person, meaning that I ask a lot of questions, especially if I have to do something I’ve never done before. If someone else knows how to do what I’m trying to learn, it’s more efficient and effective if I can ask that person.
In short, I believe that trial and error is expensive and should be avoided if someone knows the right way to do it. But, some people do not like it when I ask “too many questions”.
I’ll be looking for more examples over the next 24 hours. I know people who have these qualities, so it will be very easy to find
.
April 19th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
I can recognized many of these in colleagues and some friends especially those that I find frustrating to deal with. I have always thought of these types of traits as fall backs when you have little else on your side and cannot think of examples of this in those that I truly admire and wish to emulate.
April 19th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
I’ve seen examples of all four of these in the last 48 hours.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:36 am
I have seen all the above in close friends to business associates and also our political leaders. They all manifest all the above examples of Brain Vain(opinion Pride and conceit) Righteous and Sightless(consequence blindness)Space Glutton (output-mania)Lazy Critic (mistake-phobia). I witness all these every day in people so you can see how real PTV is all about.
April 16th, 2009 at 4:03 am
i have examples of all these types at various times in my career
April 14th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Most people I know are infected with one or the other or all depending on the person. I know that over the years I have displayed all versions.
April 2nd, 2009 at 11:23 am
Its amazing how so many people I knolw , fall into these categories. I have seen in previous meetings the brain Vain , Righteous and Sightless (old boss) & Lazy Critic. I see spac gluttons all the time. I feel if I were any of these I would be a space glutton, I am now aware of this and will more on changing that.
March 19th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
I can’t help being amused by this. I think it’s safe to say I can see examples of these in many of the people I interact with. I myself are a product of Brain Vain and Space Glutton. Thankfully, the first step in CVS2BVS is a full understanding on the current situation!
March 18th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
I saw brain vain in my boss’s rigidity to doing things a certain way simply because “that’s how it’s always been done.”
March 18th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
I see all of these quite often! ..sometimes in myself.. It is often hard to see ones own attitudes.
March 7th, 2009 at 7:29 am
I don’t have to look too far to see an example of the 4 PTV’s. Not only in my own thoughts but in my family as well.
The ones in business seem to suffer “Brain Vain”, “Righteous and Sightless” and definately “Space Glutton” while others in and out of business seem to suffer “Lazy Critic” and “Space Glutton. They can talk themselves out of anything because of the “fear of mistakes” and the dreaded “What if…..”. I know I have been guilty of all these things in the past but I’m learning to look for better ways every day.
February 26th, 2009 at 3:57 am
After observing my thought patterns, I’ll say that of the 4 , I think I am suffering from the lazy critic effect .Rather im thought process the lazy critic effect is much more dominent than the other three.
February 17th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
This isnt too hard without leaving my computer. My xhusband who is a good guy is definantly infected with both the ‘brain vain’ and the ‘righteous and sightless’ viruses. He sees everything in life in black and white, either ‘good’ or ‘bad’; people are ‘good eggs’ or ‘bad eggs’ and there’s no in between which is the exact opposite of myself who only sees in differing shades of grey. My assistant mngr. at work could be the poster child for the ‘lazy critic’ virus, thriving on always being right even when it requires contradicting himself from last time he was right. And having to find the fault or the error or problem in everyone else. I cant identify any one in particular but I’ve endured many a long meeting or class or seminar dominated by ‘space glutton’ sufferers. I readily acknowledge my many shortcomings believe me and it may be that I am simply blind to the obvious (to others) but I dont believe that I am a infected with any of these particular viruses. Others maybe, which I might be able to identify further down this learning road.
February 15th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
mmmmmmm , i was just thinking all of the time , tryin to figure out somethgs , i didn’t have a lot of discussions so i can’t seem to releive any of the 4 but i may say that lazy critic is the one that could affect me when im not certain yet of a thought , but when im alone i can easily pass it and find some solution ….
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:01 am
Looking at people is a real “Comedia del Arte”. It is easy to recognize and identify one of the mindset. I recognize mine also. What I find very difficult is to be able to communicate through the mindsets. It is so anchored, and unconscious, that exposing it makes it threatening. However, to go further together, there should be a way to establish communication.
February 2nd, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Brain Vain=closed medical opinion that the rest of health system uses as a system of thinking to ostracise those who are atypical presentations to those in the prescriptive books.
Righteous and Sightless=again biomedical reductionist paradigm; so righteous is conveniently sightless about the unethical, inhumane treatment of atypical presentations making them feel blamed because they dont follow the prescriptive treatment protocols (all evidenced based) but from whose evidenced based agenda? Blue Chip Pharmaceutical engineering comp.s
Space Glutton=me at times; and also just about many other people I engage with; at least I do read and listen to all opinions or I would be permanently out of work.
Lazy Critic= many nursing staff very frightened to voice their intuitive, expert collective knowledge and ‘out’ until medical paradigm says its ok now; perfect example the now trendy use, misinterpretation for monetary and agenda pushing sake of ‘holistic care’; boy is that bastardised beyond recognition. Nurse theorists were criticised for many years at least thirty years ago for wishing to turn care from reductionist based to holistic based. However, the majority of sheeple nurses still blindly follow reductionistic method frightened in case they voice a mistake.
February 2nd, 2009 at 7:54 am
The most liberating idea is that there are no “absolute truths”. This means that we can all be sovereign thinkers if we choose to be.
January 28th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Over my Life I am guilty of some phase of each on a regular basis. Somehow entropy of thinking and action is always at work and we must be vigilant to progress and grow!!
Thanks for the lessons to date!!
December 31st, 2008 at 4:12 am
I used to be a victim of space glutton and brain vain. But thanks to SOT. In the last 24 hours I have noticed some people that are infected by these four viruses
December 13th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
I actually know a person who has traces of all 4
December 8th, 2008 at 11:35 am
Bring on the neuroware!
November 18th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
It is fascinating when one views people around with PTV syndrome. Almost every one is infected including me. My bussiness associate is a typical example of Space Glutton. Almost every one is suffering from the Lazy Critic infection. My wife wins hands down when it comes to Brain Vain. Recent arrest of a Military officer for sabotage activity is a ferfect example of Righteous and Sightless – God be with them and clear them of PTV ( That includes a few traces in me too)
November 14th, 2008 at 6:54 am
I worked on this DFQ and it was too easy to identify each of these mindsets.The challenge became to find an open minded awareness.These self-induced mindsets are easy to recognize in others,but when examining self, the pain was excrutiating!
November 13th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Recent political activity, radio talk-back, my work and social interactions have highlighted great examples of each.
November 5th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Afriend of mine suffers from brain vain
A work colleague displays the righteous and sightless PTV
I was guilty of being a space glutton at times
My sister li law was observed showing signs of a lazy critic
October 29th, 2008 at 7:00 am
I have caught myself being a laz critic a number of times and i will work on that as well as the other pvt’s
October 25th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
During the last 24 hours , I have observed following examples of
Brain Vain
People worrying of the consequences of the current economic downturn on their jobs as if doing a job is the only way of surviving in this world
Righteous and Sightless
I have come across a news that around 10th of October 2008, a well educated brother and sister killed their parents before hanging themselves to death due to financial difficulties.
Space Glutton
People talking of the consequences of the current economic downturn on their jobs but not listening to new ideas of creating wealth by maximizing their own potential
Lazy Critic
Despite being aware of the consequences of the current economic downturn on their jobs, people unwilling to take action on new ideas of creating wealth but criticizing such ideas.
October 10th, 2008 at 10:11 am
looking at what we see today in the media with the financial crisis i haven’t heard any original idea reagarding what’s happening it’s all the same speech from politicians to various speakers on tv radio ect..
space glutton that could be me i just have trouble to shut up and listen but i’m learning!!
lazy critic i can be like too sometimes being frightfull of the new things that i try out there, being able to see it is the first step to get rid of it!!
October 7th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
HI ,
Brain Vain: Looking at a politician interviewed presents a wide variety of possible cases if Brain Vain.
Righteous and Sightless: Going in to the city night time offers a conglomerate of poeple in different places acting as if it is no tomorrow.
Space Glutton: At work, pretty much in the same way as described by you.
Lazy Critic: Common in the work place where a person suffferinf from this syndrome always find a way to put a negative spin, no matter the subject or situation to be dealt with.
……
October 7th, 2008 at 4:01 am
- Brain Vain – A person at work who is not ready to listen to others ideas.
- Righteous and Sightless – Virtually every professional politician, as well as deeply religious people, belongs to this group.
- Space Glutton – When people become angry they loose their emotional balance they go on telling what they hold and never listen to others.
- Lazy Critic – are the pople who refuse to think and do something good.
October 4th, 2008 at 6:21 am
Television is a good souce of all of these!
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:27 pm
They are all around, & I have been some of them too
August 18th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Brain vain- political leaders from Rudd to W Bush to Putin
Righteous & Sightless- religious leaders, anti-abortionists
Space Glutton- Uni professors, but then that’s their job
Lazy Critic- the average journalist/ newsreader
August 17th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Well….it’s seem like quite difficult to see it out….but just try my best…
August 11th, 2008 at 10:38 am
yes, I and they exist regularly
August 7th, 2008 at 9:51 am
I’ve seen all of these and I have been some of them too…
August 6th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
i know all of these people !
July 13th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
I clearly recognize myself in the lazy critic/ mistake phobia. It once was a great defence as a child when living in a hostile and critical environment but now in my adult life i dont need to be so defensive.
July 11th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Brain Vain= the people that come in with the new company our old company bought out. My dad
Righteous and sightless= my sisters son in law
Space Glutton= step mother
lazy critics= my sister in laws and a few nieces.
as for me I only hope to round off slightly well in all them.
July 10th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
1 – the guy who hogs the road
2 – the guy who hogs the road
3 – the lady in the post office who takes up the assistants time talking about her ailments
4 – the lady in the supermarket queue who dithers over what she might have forgotten to put in her basket
July 9th, 2008 at 11:05 am
-brain vain:common among leaders in religion and politics
-righteous and sightless:common among leaders of world banks and IMF
people designing america’s foreign policy
-space glutton;leaders of multinational corporation
-lazy critic;all those who refuse to think
June 23rd, 2008 at 12:27 pm
I work for a large multi national company and each work day is full of all of these. I used to be able to screen, by not picking up the phone, but these days most communication is via email, and I now deal with over 100 emails a day across these 4 PTV manifestations. Its an ongoing cause of stress and I really need to get to the end of this SOT course, for my own sanity….Otherwise I guess the delete button will continue to be my saviour (for want of a better word!), though it only works for a brief period of time.
June 22nd, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Brain Vain – one sister (and me at times, reluctant to loose!)
Righteous and sightless – a charismatic Christian friend
Space Glutton – an ex Brother-in-law, when intoxicated
June 22nd, 2008 at 7:23 am
Space Gluton my husband after few drinks and LazyCritic any other time, Brain Vain me and my son.
June 19th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
I am aware of some of these traits in myself but fortunately in the last 24 hour period I have not noticed too much of any of this. Might be that I have not had a lot of contact with a great variety of people and the ones I have had contact with in the last 24 hours are a good bunch of open minded people. This makes me feel good, that I know people who don’t practice these methods of non communication on a regular basis, it suggests there is hope for me!
June 15th, 2008 at 12:39 am
brain vain – my boss
lazy critic – that¨s me
i have to improve
June 11th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Can occasionally be a space glutton – but only when intoxicated !
May 30th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
I have at times been guilty of each of these conditions. I seldom do 2-4 anymore but more recently have been guilty of “Brain Vain.” The “Righteous and Sightless” form is the root of most devastating wars, it would see, including the one the US and Britain are engaged in in Iraq
May 26th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
There are many guilty as charged- including myself- at times. Observation, self-criticism and maybe SOT could help us out.Although I am rather doubtful- taking human weaknesses – especially the fear of the known and lack of cerainty- into account.
May 19th, 2008 at 4:16 am
Ok. I will try.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:50 am
Two in me; two in my husband; no wonder communicating is such a chore.
April 25th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Ther are plenty of the above. In the working place, amomg friends and associates and even in the family circle. The onle thing to watch out for is we don’t become like these in trying to be a soveriegn thinker.
April 23rd, 2008 at 4:16 am
My sister trying to tell me what to do about a worm bin for which I have training that she does not. Brain vain.
I find myself so caught up in helping my girlfriend with her emotional issues that sometimes I forget to just be there for her, and not try to teach her out of being sad.
I had a job interview where the interviewer did most of the talking in a sales pitch about the company then asked me to talk more, followed immediately by more sales pitch.
My girlfriend and I are both job hunting. she will criticize me and how I search when she herself has not even start search being unsure of how to do it and how to be successful at it.
April 17th, 2008 at 3:15 am
I certainly suffer from the first, Brain Vain, but i don’t think I suffer from the second, (or am I being blind to my own behaviour?…) I do sometimes suffer from the third, but I am aware of it and try to change.. I am not afraid to make mistakes- I like foreign languages and would never dare try them out if I was a lazy critic!
However, I shall continue to be vigilant.
April 15th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Just a few minutes of listening to this morning’s news is enough to find examples of all of these. I love listening to Radio 4 but realise that I have been too pasive and accepting of the ideas that it puts across. I too suffer from all 4 conditions depending on what audience I am with!
April 14th, 2008 at 7:45 am
Hooray! I don’t suffer from mistake phobia!
The other three – I’m afraid so. Especially talking too much in meetings -Space gluton and brain vain -(I write NIP – no interrupting people – on my notebook, and for lent this year I resolved to listen more and speak less.) I’m glad to know that everyone else seems just as bad! I will enjoy looking for concrete examples over the next 24 hours. (I hope I don’t find any mistake-phobic tendencies!)
April 14th, 2008 at 6:09 am
I can find so many of each of these types where I work as a teacher
April 14th, 2008 at 1:27 am
The one that I’m least guilty of is Space Gluttony, but I’m not entirely free of it.
April 13th, 2008 at 5:47 am
Defo ‘Brain Vain’ for me! Being an eldest sibling set the stage for making sure my opinion was the loudest, most right and most infalliable. Add to that a very competitive spirit and you have enough barriers and anger to make sure my ‘Brain’ was superior to other peoples. I expect to meet this part of my PTV in the next 24 hrs!
April 11th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
Guilty of all 4 at different times. Now they have been identified I can be mindful to recognise them whenever they try to rear their heads in my neck top.
April 8th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
I can acknowledge that in my lifetime i would be guilty of all 4, and probably at different times, situations and circumstances i still am. I look forward to learning to recognize and delete this type of thinking from my neck-top.
March 24th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
serve as a guide… not to fall into either one of the category
March 24th, 2008 at 5:35 am
I can honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that I was once a brain-vain. I feel that most people actually are but some are better at conceding than others. We know there are many out there who have very low self-esteem hence are likely not to suffer the brain-vain syndrome as they have no self-confidence whatsoever. But for those with a modicum of pride, it is inevitable. As for righteous and sightless, I discarded this as soon as I realized there is no ‘absolute truth’. Just a truth that is more so than other supposed truths. Basically, nothing is absolute and no one should attempt to classify.
Everything is a process and what might be right in a particular circumstance may not apply in another. Never been a Space Glutton, I tend to listen more which I think is good later in life, but early in life, I think its okay to speak out only if to develop your communication skills and confidence. As for the Lazy Critic, I pin it squarely on the older generation. The older generation for the most part get stuck in their old paradigms. And it would take an extremely adept soul to change and to make such souls see it differently. Poverty most certainly haunts Lazy critics as I believe no true wealth is built on fear and absolute certainty.
March 18th, 2008 at 10:13 am
My neck-top computer has all of these PTV effects. Especially being afraid to make mistakes (Lazy critic), and less so the space glutton, probably because my work has conditioned me to listen more than talk.
The first two PTV effects are evident especially when one is strongly attached to the opinion/conviction being discussed. Sometimes we have a vested interest in holding tight to our views because of the social network one is involved in; none of us likes feeling “on the outer” or “left out”, or disconnected from the consensus reality of our peers.
It takes mindfulness & conscious practice to get comfortable with standing aside from one’s views (and need to express them forecefully!), pushing them away temporarily, and open-mindedly exploring another way of being/thinking.
March 9th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
I wanted to see if I could find these in myself so as to remove them. Seeing these in others is helpful, but it is me and my thinking I am working on. I really don’t think I do these that often anymore, but after looking them over, it seems when I do, I do all of them at once. I fall into the very intelligent. This is not bragging, it is just the case, like saying a person is tall. Being bright can have its traps as I can get locked into an opinion and brilliantly defend it even fooling myself. I have never had a problem speaking and so can dominate a discussion irrespective of the consequences. Consequences being that I see myself as brilliant and others I find our later see me as overbearing, needing attention and so do not like me, at least at that moment. My critic comes out and decides the people are just stupid. So, what is accomplished?
February 24th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
I guess I’ll have to become aware of my own thinking, then, as I’m scheduled to be ‘far from the haunts of (people)’ for the next little while.
Now, if I can just observeinstead of correcting I’ll possibly come closer to shifting the dregs of PTV than if I rush to (heh heh) make all Right.
February 24th, 2008 at 11:38 am
The mirrow I live with has all of these qualities …. and I get mad, sad, bored and outraged. It is said that the person you live with is but a reflection of who you are …… now, I’m very sad. Just think what my human mirrow goes through.
I look forward to improving myself.
Thank you.
February 20th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
righteous and sightless. I have just finished listening to a program on the ABC problems of the six counties in Ireland
February 5th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
brain vain – supervisor at work who won’t listen to others ideas
righteous & sightless – just watched a doco about a religious theme relating to world politics (enough said)
space glutton – there’s sooo many of them at work
lazy critic – also a lot of these at work, people are so afraid they won’t even try in the first place
January 30th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
I work in a enviroment where there are a lot of individuals that are more concerned about their looks and social status than their work ethics and as such work quality suffers in place of social satus.
Blindness is a ongoing problem with superiors as they rely on the ones who are the most vocal to provide information on the workplace and not the actual work done.
My ‘work smarter than harder’ is not always accepted as some see the volume as a good example of how hard some one works rather than the actual accuracy of the work being done. More time is taken in fixing errors and thus not efficient.
Re above those that are just doing for the sake of doing and not really understanding what they are doing or even care and so mistakes are made and left to up to the conciencios to fix
January 23rd, 2008 at 7:33 am
The Eu and US have released preliminary advice on the safety of cloned foods. I take no position on the safety or otherwise of these foods in this response.
However, I note a lot of brain vain behaviour in the responses of the scientists, regulators and communities responses to the preliminay advice – they’re ALL right, even though they hold diametrically different views. The community sector that is vocal doesn’t trust the science, because look at the trouble that science has brought us before. The scientists tend to be a bit God-like. The regulators are a bit confused, and would rather not change stuff (it’s always worked before). Is the challenge to provoke thinking responses too much?
January 12th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Once a problem has been identified, I suppose it is just a matter of time until the solution is found, provided there is a will to solve it.
I have enough imperfections of my own to look out for someone else’s so I have already noticed in me manifestations of at least three of the above PTV-signs. I have been working on them for a while now but I know that they are still there and wouldn’t surprise me at all if I noticed them again within the next 24 hours.
January 9th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
i will
January 8th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Do we need 24 hours?!! well when we have to judge we should always self judge, I felt these are behaviours we aquire unconciously, with no bad intentions, in different situations.
I have to work on it with the knowledge extended by SOT in forthcoming lessons.
Thank you.
January 7th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
I watched – and I noticed – and I thought.
I have a diary stretching back 2 years – I can identify aspects of all 4 kinds of thinking, both in my own mind and in the actions of others I have to deal with.
Luckily, my diary has become a tool I can make use of to help identify the necessary changes in my thinking to produce the BVS I need.
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:23 pm
I seem to be infected with all of them
December 31st, 2007 at 11:28 am
Would be an interesting exercise – I think we are all of them in different situation. The skill is catching yourself doing it unaware. The dominant ones will be easy to find but the others can be insidious if you do not catch yourself doing it.
December 27th, 2007 at 8:40 pm
Brain Vain – I unfortunately suffer from this one.. I get an idea in my head and then I think its the right one.. although I am open sometimes..
Righteous and Sightless – Unfortunately many of my more religious friends suffer from this symptom.. They believe that because something is written in the bible it must be true and everything else is false.. no matter what..
Space Glutton – Every time I am at a meeting.. I think everyone can relate to a time at a meeting where there is always one person…
Lazy Critic – A couple of my friends are the type of people who are always critical of things just to prove that they are still right.. I also think I might suffer a bit from this one too unfortunately..
December 24th, 2007 at 2:27 pm
I’m a recovering lazy critic. I think everyone has a bit of all of the above in them somewhere.
December 18th, 2007 at 2:27 pm
As I was reading this, I recognized these examples in my work space. I hate to admit it, I recognize two in my own mind
December 16th, 2007 at 9:37 pm
I am often guilty of Lazy Critic, so I will be on the look out for the signs. I know people who fit into the other types, so how do I deal with them I can’t wait to find out
December 9th, 2007 at 2:19 pm
I providing advice to someone I acted on the cautious side (mistake-phobia) and the advice has not fixed the problem requring follow up consultations and more time spent on the project.
December 7th, 2007 at 9:51 am
Brain Vain over and over again
December 7th, 2007 at 9:23 am
I wonder if procrastination is a manifestation of mistake-phobia
November 25th, 2007 at 10:41 am
Reflecting on this, PTV in me has 5% component of Righteous and Sightless; 10% of Space Glutton; 20% of Brain Vain and 65% of Lazy Critic.
November 16th, 2007 at 5:26 am
brain vain,righteous and sightless,space glutton,lazy critic.one has come across all these and have myself exhibited traits of of some of these.well why else will SOT be there if not to help us overcome these negativities
November 14th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
Mr Brain Vain would have to be me – although I am not conceit !
Mr Space Glutton – been in plenty of meetings with these guys – and they are pretty high up in sales and management !!!
Mr Lazy Critic – the one who doesn’t like to embrace change – yep certainly met a few of them
Mr Righteous and Sightless – I can think of a few politicians who would fall into this category !
November 7th, 2007 at 10:09 am
Useful knowledge / tools in identifying PTV in others (as well as in self). Will make it easier to identify the better ideas in meetings.
November 3rd, 2007 at 1:20 am
To varying degrees I have exhibited all of the above in my thinking patterns/habits, and as Charlie says it’s a question of recognizing them for what they are and then applying bvs.
October 24th, 2007 at 11:18 am
I think that these are all natural conditions/behaviours that everyone exhibits to some extent under different circumstances.
The important thing is to be able to recognise these traits in ourselves and others and manage them so that they don’t derail the thought process.
October 20th, 2007 at 11:43 pm
I don’t need the next 24 hours. I’ve had a whole week of that. Or month(s) or even more. Most people I come in contact with, including some of my best friends are stuck in the old ways of thinking, and they are sure that they OWN the TRUTH. If I only try to say something different or new, they are willing and ready to call the Mental Healt services to come and take me away. I understand them. I have been just like them for many many years. Some of them now say that I am so open minded, that if I bend my head over my brain will fall out.
so, maybe the only two things they could say about me are that I’m Brain Vain (the first one being true – I take pride in my opinions, it took me many years to change them for a bvs). I’m trying to convince them that the Earth is a sphere, but I’m not forcing it on them. The other thing I might be blamed for is being Righteous and sightless (consequence blind). Well, it might cost me – look what happened to Galileo).
September 28th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
I can see how, depending on a situation, I can do all of these. At times when I have alot of information about a situation, I can employ Brain Vain (sure I’m right!), Righteous and Sightless (If I’m right, how willing and I to even look at another possibility), Space Glutton (in my determination to prove, “yes I know what I am talking about”, I will talk and talk and talk and talk, and oh yes, did I leave something out? Well, I can start again!). My lazy critic comes into play at times where I am not as confident in dealing with or have as much information about a situation as I normally would. Then I go, “what if,?” and because I can’t answer that question, it is more difficult to make a decision and carry it through. Lots of doubts hit at lazy critic time.
To date, I work to be aware of what I am doing and so the opportunity to deal with the situation differently arises. Then, who knows, I might allow myself to learn something new!
September 28th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
The problem we have to face as fair-minded brainusers is that in business, we come across all these animals. And it is difficult not to retalliate by resorting to one (or all) of these faults ourselves. After all, big corporations usually love The Answer (especially if it comes out of research which has vallidated it in some mysterious way). Our mission is not only, therefore, to keep our minds open, but to open those of all around us.
September 24th, 2007 at 5:25 pm
I suffer from lack of assertion in that I see so many options open that I cannot bring myself to adopt a firm stance on anything. There is no wrong way to do anything only a different way. Having said this, my philiosophy is that it is better to turn up the ‘wrong’ street than to stand on a street corner all your life.
September 17th, 2007 at 9:19 pm
There were actually lots of examples to observe! I’m certainly motivated to work on reducing these manifestations as they surface in my thinking, and I am sure my thinking effectiveness will grow as a result.
September 17th, 2007 at 12:14 am
Brian-vain: I am too modest to admit that I might suffer from this (and the other) shortcoming more often than not. Besides, I know a person who does not miss an opportunity to expound his view of the matter in point in every meeting, and take as much time as possible in doing so.
Righteous and Sightless: Virtually every professional politician, as well as deeply religious people, belongs to this group. It is impossible to achieve any post of significance in the political spectrum, unless one has a shatterproof belief in doing the right thing.
Space glutton: This is another aspect of the brain-vainer. In fact, it is hard to find an example of a brain-vain category person who is not, simultaneously, also a space glutton.
Lazy critic: This is a different facet of the Righteous and Sightless. Worse yet, lazy criticism is used not only to stop and trample down someone else’s idea, particularly if that person is not prepared for a lazy-critic-criticism. In fact, lazy-criticism is often used as a deliberate method to sabotage and destroy other people’s ideas right in the bud.
September 16th, 2007 at 3:53 am
- Brain Vain (opinion pride and conceit)
Everybody I came across (including me, of course) was proud of their opinion about just about everything. Conceit may appear to be less widespread.
- Righteous and Sightless (consequence blindness)
I noticed this mostly among professed religious persons. In my “brain vain” view they strike such a pitiful sight. Persons who seem to be ready to argue, quarrel, fight and kill for concepts and opinions none of whose origins and antecedents they know anything about will surely evoke pity from so-called Gnostics and budding Gnostics like me and us.
- Space Glutton (output-mania)
More than a few individuals (including me, of course) want to keep talking and propounding their beliefs and ideas, obviously rejecting interruption from their listeners and co-discussants. This is especially so when they have to talk on topics about which they are passionate. I met some in the past 24 hours.
- Lazy Critic (mistake-phobia)
Almost everybody I met suffers from this.
September 15th, 2007 at 6:40 pm
Of the four, I tend to be space glutton more often. I have been aware of that I have to consistently make efforts to avoid this situation.
I can not say I am free of others but those are much less.
September 15th, 2007 at 12:40 am
Yep, Im familiar with the lazy critic.. its me!!
Time to look around and see what I can see!
September 14th, 2007 at 9:40 am
I believe that I am predisposed more so to the lazy critc school of thought, but only a mild case. It manifests itself by a fear I have of being wrong in fornt of other people (at work) who have been in their respective positions longer than I have (I have been in my new role two weeks!!)
In the meetings I have attended thus far I have already observed with amusement the internal politics and have seen one stand out BV and a SG (making mindless comments in meetings just to be seen to be doing something – when in fact this person is just demonstrating their own lack of intuitive thinking)
I, like many others do suffer from BV however i am willing to listen to others and respond to objective (and evidence based) criticism of my ideas. However any other form of ‘attack’ on my views are vigorously opposed. This allows me to be open to ideas which are thought out while eschewing tose that are subjective and without rational grounds.
September 12th, 2007 at 10:30 pm
Very much was all 4 in late youth and early business life.
As one gets older one hopefully becomes more reasoned , more prepared to listen, less moralistic , and more prepared to have a go and fail – especially if reflecting on what we did well or not so well and learning from both good and bad experiences .
September 12th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
I think I have a bit of Brain Vain and Righteous and Sightless. I should try to open my mind more.
September 10th, 2007 at 2:27 pm
Just remembered something I commented on in another reflection. Lazy critic – guilty as charged
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:24 pm
As much as I could I tried to identify my own issues with the 4 PTV bugs…output-mania….hmmm need to learn skills to improve here.
Bring on the next lessons as I think there are elements of the other 3 affecting my thinking ability too
August 31st, 2007 at 9:01 am
This is so enlightening, I still need to remind myself to listen to others and empower others to contribute ideas as we all suffer from one or more forms of conceit or phobias.
August 30th, 2007 at 11:16 am
Will do. I will probably be the offender of all 4.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:32 am
I am guilty of all these afflictions myself.
1/Brian Vain-I defended my idea of what truth is to my son who is 2.
2/Righteous & sightless-by being brain vain I’m limiting my sons potential to learn for himself.
3/Space Glutton- I must make it my goal to talk less & listen/learn more.
4/Lazy Critic- As that famous Nike ad says “Just Do It.”
August 23rd, 2007 at 11:04 am
It’s very interesting, that while I was reading last lesson I can see all of those PTV’s in everybody else behaviour except mine. It took me a bit of time to realise, that I’m infected by cognitive conditions caused by PTV even more than others. With better understanding from SOT lessons I’m hoping to learn how to control all of this. Perhaps I can learn to rid myself of those infections.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:59 pm
The four cognitive conditions identified in this lesson are not solely the product of PTV, but also stem from personality traits not necessarily influenced by PTV. That is no excuse, of course, but it does make self awareness even more difficult. How many control freaks recognize the condition in themselves?
With the federal election upcoming in Australia, examples of brain vain behavior are increasingly evident in the statements of the Prime Minister and Treasurer.
Bruce
August 19th, 2007 at 1:12 am
Brain vain: Generally I find most of the politicians stick on to their opinions, even though they knew it may not be possible. The PTV for them is to get their followers support and are proud of their stand .
Righteous sightless: Some people with muscle power and money power normally are righteous sightless people. They don’t worry about consequences. This PTV in them is due to the arrogance in their M power.
Space Glutton : When people become angry they loose their emotional balance. they go on telling what they hold and never listen to others. Frequent such situations conditioned them.
Lazy Critic: People with fear phobia generally don’t take risk. They have suspicion of committing mistakes. They are reluctant to do any new project until some others take up the venture.
I have seen many such persons quite often.
P. Vijayachandran.
August 16th, 2007 at 8:08 pm
I recalled examples of each viral symptom while reading the lesson today, not only in myself but others. While I suffer mostly from mistake-phobia, I see the other symptoms to a lesser degree.
I hope a constant awareness of these viral symptoms will lend a cure. I believe the prognosis is good!
August 16th, 2007 at 3:48 pm
- I’m being Brain Vain when I’m talking to another whom I already had prejudice and negative judgment.
- I’m being Righteous and Sightless when I’m in moments of reacting (in auto-pilot) in the heat of the moment during heated argument.
- I’m being Space Glutton when I shared with others on stuff which I’m very passionate about and it’s something new and unique.
- I’m being Lazy Critic when I envy and criticise other successful people in the the area of my life that I failed big time.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:40 pm
Yes, I am on the bandwagon again. I’m still a little confused. So I am learning that we are to keep our minds open so that when someone tells us something, we don’t use Brain Vain to offer out opinion, if we have any beliefs at all, we suffer from “Righteous and sightless” and if we dare tell anyone about it, we are being a “Space Glutton”. If I dare challenge any of this then I am being a “Lazy Critic”. I think I am beginning to get it now.
August 9th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
I can quickly identify these traits in others but find it more difficult to accept examples from my own behaviour! I am not inclined to be a space glutton, however I probably need external feedback to confirm my view. I think I tend towards being a Lazy Critic where I find it easy to be critical but more challenging to offer realistic alternatives.
August 9th, 2007 at 10:50 am
All this characteristics are a common denominator of every human being that were thought with the mainstream educational system.In fact our numerator is excellence through competetion.
I can not deny this system running at the back of my brain.though I am much aware of it than before I started this course.
Thanks to SOT bringing it on the surface.
August 8th, 2007 at 2:09 am
I must confess, I’ve been a Lazy Critic in the past, but have accidently begun moving away from that attitude. Looks like SOT will continue my journey! as for the other 3, there’s no need to wait 24 hours. I see examples all of the time and can name a few off the top of my head.
August 7th, 2007 at 2:53 am
All these are apparent on any given day in everyday life. Helping others and ourselves to realize that there are not absolute truths will help mankind overcome this.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:58 am
I certainly can admit to these PTVs when I am at the football barracking hard, in my one-eyed fashion, for my team……….
August 4th, 2007 at 11:45 am
I have suffered from all of these.
July 30th, 2007 at 7:28 am
Brain Vain: Looking at a politician interviewed presents a wide variety of possible cases if Brain Vain.
Righteous and Sightless: Going in to the city night time offers a conglomerate of poeple in different places acting as if it is no tomorrow.
Space Glutton: At work, pretty much in the same way as described by you.
Lazy Critic: Common in the work place where a person suffferinf from this syndrome always find a way to put a negative spin, no matter the subject or situation to be dealt with.
July 27th, 2007 at 11:19 pm
Look like my thinking habits but I’m not a space glutton.
July 26th, 2007 at 11:38 pm
Shouldn´t be hard ; most of us have all of those to a certain degree…..; it´s something I´ve been working on lately…..
July 6th, 2007 at 11:59 am
24 seconds should do it
BV someone at work displayed this so well
RS fortunately I have realised some time back, how I used this in how I saw the world and myslef, I was totally unaware of it until then
SG my dad had this skill
LC I have seen this today
Actually in myself there have been each of these to a lesser or greater degree. It is a little humanising and humbling to realise that
Thanks so much for pointing out what I dork I have been
It was great to read others DFQ’s, I appreciate them and peoples honesty
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:57 pm
Yep, I’m all of them. How scary is this. I was vain enough to be thinking that I was almost past “it’s all about me”, but upon looking at it, I realized that give me the chance and I’ll probably make up for lost ground and grab the lot, boots and all.
June 21st, 2007 at 5:10 am
My god its horrible! I must be the biggest brain vain/lazy critic out there! Even reading about the possibility of my opinion being possibly wrong gave me chills and the thought of making a mistake in thinking scares me. This has to stop. I even tried to look up criticism on SOT on the internet just to cope with the feeling. I guess you really are on to something with these ideas. I’m going to stick by these lessons, they could be really good for me.
June 21st, 2007 at 2:59 am
Brain vain is difficult for me to see in myself since I’m not a pushy person. I usually let others spill their opinions, and keep my own. I don’t feel it’s worth a fight with anyone, and I have seen plenty. I use to work with bullies.
R&S is not my style. I consider consequences more than I should before acting.
SG I would do only after being provoked, then I can’t seem to stop.
Lazy Critic I have done this one more times I want to remember.
June 16th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
I think mostly the Lazy Critic. If I feel I cannot find the words to argue my case convincingly, I will rather abstain.
June 15th, 2007 at 9:46 am
I see a little of myself in all of these – something for me to be mindful of…I also see many examples around me, sadly mostly the senior management of this organisation
June 8th, 2007 at 6:40 pm
I noticed them all – internal judgment and criticism of others, being right when others are saying otherwise, talking over people & interrupting their flow of conversation and resisting action through fear. And that’s just me. Yep, I’m human alright.
June 8th, 2007 at 4:29 pm
BV – that my reqs should be considered in a void from other comparable people because I am different… / Being involved in a project and voicing how it should run in the future with a little agression rather than openness. And accepting all the sympathy I have received though I know I could have done better along the way
R&S – I’m not sure with this one. Guess I don’t and that’s why I’m a lazy critic.. or socially I can be reckless but I love it..
SG – finding it easier to do things myself, my way rather than delegating. Also feeling that I will do it better… need to give ppl a chance to show they can and to learn to.
LC – any big moves I falter on and hesitate to move foreward as I find faults and holes in any option, and fear them. Keeps me stagnant and wary / or lazy and critical.
May 30th, 2007 at 4:23 am
I feel remarkably well balanced (LOL). I exhibit all of these traits at one time or another. I believe most, if not all, people do to one extent or an other.
Lazy Critic is probably my greatest enemy as well as Righteous and Sightless. I find I voice an opinion before thinking through the possible consequenses. I don’t relate to the term “righteous” as I tend to apply it to ‘feeling greater than’ rather than ‘consequence blindness’. I do not think of myself as greater than anyone. We are all equals (of the same value) even when we don’t all believe it of ourselves or others.
Looking forward to more amunition to defeat the ugly PTV.
Enjoying the brain stimulous.
May 28th, 2007 at 8:04 pm
Brain Vain
I have seen several examples of rthe brain vain in my work where managers and leaders have made serious mistakes through ignoring contributions from other team members As the lesson says it’s usually the smart ones who are guilty of this .
Righteous and sightless
In my world bigotry is prevelant, from all quarters, and it requires constant vigalene to route it out in yourself .
Space Glutton
Lots of meetings have been ruined by this . Sometimes Iv’e been the one responsible . So I had better watch it .
Lazy Critic
I’m applying for job that requires a lot of responsible action to succeed at it . The lazy critic in me doesn’t want me to do it ..
May 20th, 2007 at 8:42 pm
Brain Vain: I don’t like to point fingers ,however my mother in-law has the worst case of brain vain i have ever seen.
No matter if someone is undoubtably right in a discussion she will always argue that her point of view or opinion is the right one. LOL
Righteous & Sightless: On this one i would have to say that one of the guys i work with is the worst offender of this one. What makes it worse is that he doesn’t really seem to care about the outcome . He always seems to point the blame at someone else for his mistakes.
Space Glutton: This one is probably a little less obvious in my day to day working but there is this one guy i know who will talk for hours about anything HE is interested in whether or not someone is listening. LOL. Don’t get me wrong, he is a great guy but man can he talk.
Lazy Critic: This one happens more often than any other one of the above. Especially at work. In the last week i have made a couple of mistakes in my production drawings ( which i gracefully admitted all responsibility for) yet all the people who i have done consistent great work for jumped on me like i was a wounded animal. Lol Yet the next day as soon as they wanted something done i was their best buddy again.
I take criticism pretty well so none of that bothers me but i think i take a large brunt of all these peoples insecurities.
May 20th, 2007 at 5:36 pm
I have seen a close friend in much pain over a split up with a partner in love. He was in so much pain because he could not let go of the fact that there had to be a ‘right’ way to view what had happened to him … I noticed his resistence when I tried to point out that there was possibly no ‘right’ and no ‘wrong’ to be determined … Just a shitty situation to be dealt with … That he could be choosing to deal with better (but wasn’t!!).
May 17th, 2007 at 8:19 am
No Problem, I am at biz school and all are constantly on display. . .by me as much as the rest. We all love our ideas and tend to go on too much, and stand by these ideas to the end. Alternatives, we revert to lazy critic mode. Righteous, I am a bit better here but am sure I have my blind spots. . . at least I am looking for them.
May 16th, 2007 at 9:53 am
We have seen the enemy…and they is us! Pogo
Yes in the past 24 hours they were all there…sometimes in me amd sometimes in others. However the heightened sense of awareness about my own traits or tendencies toward these 4 styles certainly fine tuned the radar to home in on those characteristics when you are on the receiving end.
April 27th, 2007 at 8:56 pm
I definitely exhibit all four infections myself,I think Brain Vain is the worse. I am looking forward to the SOT coming soon.
April 22nd, 2007 at 6:30 pm
I’m having trouble.
Brain vain… typically when assessing other people’s beliefs, esp religious
April 17th, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Moralists, ethicists, idealists, politicians, etc. sometimes exhibit any or any combination of the four above. It seems to be very human and related to awareness and acceptance of self and others.
April 16th, 2007 at 7:11 am
I don’t have to look too far for the Brain Vain and the Lazy Critic examples as in the past I have been guilty of both myself. Just having them pointed out is a help.
April 13th, 2007 at 11:08 am
I have been all of these at some point in time !! Whilst brain vain, righteous & sightless and space glutton seem under control,sadly, I lapse back into being a lazy critic every now and then. I do recognise these behaviours in people in my own business and have developed tolerance and guidance as strategies to help them broaden their thinking and help me to learn.
April 13th, 2007 at 3:24 am
How timely is this??!!
I belong to several Gnostic sites and am running more amd more into the idea that a person’s brain is God. I will have to admit that attitude sets me free. Maybe I am Spirit Vain?
After just so much of this thinking I shut down and will check in ever so often to hear the latest. So under some situations I guess that I no longer listen to specific people.
Suellyn
April 12th, 2007 at 10:49 pm
I’m very interested in the new software coming my way. Also, I’m sure I fit into one of these categories at one time or another; I’ll have to pay closer attention.
April 5th, 2007 at 8:02 pm
Righteous and Sightless is a huge problem in today’s political culture. It’s prevalence at this particular time in America’s cultural scene significantly deteriorated America’s moral stand in the world.
April 5th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
Hmm, there seem to be people who fit into more than one category, theres too many of them
, they are the ones who bring disharmony to society and I definately dont like it. The problem with dealing with them is to not fall into one of the categories myself.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
Looking forward to reviewing the new software.
March 28th, 2007 at 9:33 am
brain vain is every where I went to a open mic and so many musicians there had the vain on with no thought to how it puts stumbling blocks of others creative force righteous and sightless they did not care the took up the space and made others feel phobias so it all was down hill form there. Had the opposite happened much more could of been accomplished.
March 27th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
My weakness is brain vain
March 26th, 2007 at 1:52 pm
great categories…having a name helps you identify & recognise them… sometimes they are me!!
March 24th, 2007 at 10:06 am
Lazy Critic has been default position as of late, probably because I’ve been (unconsciously) trying to make up for a past life as a Space Glutton. My partner has a tendency to engage in Righteous and Sightless on occasion and I have a number of intellectual friends who regularly display Brain Vain.
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:55 am
It’s is simple to notice these postures in others….I shal endeavor to observe myself to detect or notice any of these tendencies
March 19th, 2007 at 11:39 pm
Well you know what they say if the shoe fit man I,ve been everyone of them and I have been changing from the CVS to a BVS and I,m finding a lot of different things happening I just have to get out of this PTV and think positive and that everything is within me
March 19th, 2007 at 6:20 am
I have lookeed at these four conditions and can identify with Lazy critic. I am afraid to be wrong.
I also suffer from brain vain. My way is right
I can only hope that by reading these lessons and identifing my problems that I can start to overcome them. I am indeed willing.
March 13th, 2007 at 11:28 pm
Think Ive been playing the Brain Vain lately. And its definitely coming from a cognitive dissonance as a result of PTV!
I work with a predominantly Sapce Glutton who can also be righteous and sightless – and even think Ive caught a bit of the latter from him recently. Which is unlike my normal character.
A few years ago you would have called me a lazy critic, but have been working hard to overcome this one.
or so I believe!
March 8th, 2007 at 8:40 pm
Except mistake phobia, I think, I’ve done mastery in all others in diff. combination in some time or other!
Thanks for showing the MIRROR !
Carry on Doc!
February 27th, 2007 at 3:50 am
I’m a lazy critic most of the time but do have in my memory banks examples of each of the others
February 26th, 2007 at 9:21 am
Your explanation of the above-mentioned manifestations of PTV helped me to recognize them in myself.
My opinion is right or better than yours (Brain Vain)
Being impulsive (Righteous and Sightless)
Talking without listening to others (Space Glutton)
Having potentially great ideas but too afraid to implement them because of fear (Lazy Critic)
By using the appropriate thinking skills The SOT teaches, I can overcome these infections.
I will do my best to listen instead of being a Space Glutton. I will use the PRR tool (Practice, Repetition, Rehersal).
I will implement an idea and see if it works instead of being a Lazy Critic. If it does not work I will use CVS to BVS.
I will think about the consequences of my actions before acting on a idea instead of being Righteous and Sightless. I will use the thinking tool SDNT (Start, Do, Notice, Think).
I will respect others opinions and thoughts. I will practice QRH (Quality, Recognition, Humour) to eliminate Brain Vain from my thought system. This will help me to build better relationships.
Thanks to the SOT, I now have a plan to become a humble and prosperous human being.
February 20th, 2007 at 7:59 pm
Brain Vain- I noticed someone talking on the phone. Their opinion was solicited. They immediately began to go into a sermon and gradually raised the volume of their voice until I could not hear the television in the same room.
Righteous and sightless- Democrats, attempting to undermine the current administration, are engaging in pointless and possibly destructive anti-war efforts and don’t seem to be concerned or aware of the ultimate effects.
Space Glutton- I get so frustrated when my mate attempts to explain something to me. She uses many words, more than necessary, and goes into the ‘set-up’ for the ultimate point… and then the set-up for the main point becomes dominant in the conversation. She also physically fills up space with clutter!
Lazy Critic- That would be me! I tend to suffer inertia due to not wanting to make a mistake and look, well, foolish. I also tend to be critical of myself and others.
February 9th, 2007 at 6:03 am
I imagine most of us (well, myself anyway!) have fit into any one of the four categories. I did not recognise it (necessarily) at the time, though.
February 7th, 2007 at 2:22 pm
I caught myself many times defending positions I could not actually prove.
I seem to be blind for, I don’t “get” what the consequences, short or long term, are !!!
Again, I caught myself flapping my gums way beyond the needs of the situation and, truth be told, in most cases, it was well after the fact.
Yes, fear of making an “incorrect decision” has had me vascillating deciding on whether to accept an opportunity in Belize or not.
January 22nd, 2007 at 7:30 am
- Brain Vain + Space Glutton
This guy was telling me about a book he was writing, and commenting about how he need to impress the publisher with a page worth of text. I told him about this book about story telling that i think he would be interested in but he just dismissed it and go on and on about his problem with in a way he doesn’t really think is a problem more to show off his pride.
- Lazy Critic
I am a sufferer of Lazy critic and i am trying to heal from it. It stop me doing a lot of things I wanted to do. So lets’ CVS TO BVS !!
January 20th, 2007 at 1:40 am
I have noticed a lot of this in London: not so common in most rural areas though…
January 17th, 2007 at 1:06 am
I saw a good amount of the first three of them in different shades in myself. Although I knew I am a poor listener I realise only now the reasons -thanks to SOT. And I feel they are related in some way. I have been stupidly proud about my opinion ( rightly or wrongly) which makes me blind of its consequences. Then I try to defend my stand which makes me occupy more space than I am entitled- and I always try to justify by talking- making me a poor listener. phew…
I relate the lazy critic to one senior officer whose only occupation is to criticize- any person, any job, any idea. Strangely he never gave an idea or alternative- foolishly pronouncing that his job is only to criticize .
January 16th, 2007 at 2:59 pm
Travelling up the Murray River with some 35 or so other holiday-makers gave me the opportunity to observe these infections, not only in other people but in myself too. The Space Glutton was the obvious one – he was always cracking jokes, making comments about anything anyone said and when one spoke to him one-on-one, he never stopped talking. The Righteous and Sightless was a loud-speaking woman who expounded on her ideas without fear of consequence. It took a young Aboriginal guide to make her reflect on some of her previous beliefs and behaviour. The Brain Vain was well educated and had held senior positions at work and at church. There were several Lazy Critics, often the spouse of a more outspoken person (male or female). I think that in variously different company, I have displayed all of these infections myself. With better understanding from SOT lessons, perhaps I can learn to rid myself of those infections.
January 14th, 2007 at 11:52 pm
I can remember behaving in all these ways.
Brain Vain (opinion pride and conceit) Righteous and Sightless (consequence blindness) Space Glutton (output-mania) Lazy Critic (mistake-phobia)
Now I can see how these attributes of being infected with PTV express themselves in behaviours I am going to try to guard against my behaviour exhibiting any of these.
January 14th, 2007 at 10:07 am
I really like these lessons.
I can reconize the Brain Vain part of myself. Life’s hard knocks have kept it in check. I think i have been Righteous and Sightless when I have wanted something and teamed up with some people in judging others in order to gain brownie points. Fortunately, this was earlier in my life, and I have matured since.
Children are often Space Gluttons. And Lazy Critics are people who stop progress, because they want the status quo to remain unaltered. They stop circumstances using their intellect to rain on a parade.
January 4th, 2007 at 12:07 pm
I often have a tendancy to be a Brain Vain and a Space Glutton but it is something I am learning to control.
January 2nd, 2007 at 10:43 am
I see examples of these everyday. I wonder how often people see me as one of these four? I think a bit of careful self reflection may be quite useful after each meeting for the next couple of weeks.
December 23rd, 2006 at 3:37 am
I find myself to be my toughest critic, so I will contemplate how I can be these characters at different times. ~I am a Brain Vain everytime I make a conclusion about someone or something that has happened. They did ‘this’ then, so unless they have changed… they are going to do it again… and I have all the support to back it up. ~I can’t think of when I am Righteous and Sightless, except when I am manipulating the situation to get what I want. But I tend to find myself doing this when I feel confined and restricted from being who I am and not being allowed to follow my gut. ~I don’t see myself as a space glutton, just the opposite. (except right now
~I only tend to be a lazy critic when I am unhappy or feel something is not quite right. Once I figure out who or what is bothering me, I will try to take the actions to resolve it.
December 22nd, 2006 at 9:09 am
Brain Vain – me thinking I know the “right way”
Righteous & Sightless – me not thinking before I speak
Space Glutton – me talking over other people
Lazy Critic – me not wanting to do something wrong
Thank goodness for the SOT software – coming soon… hooray!
December 19th, 2006 at 11:02 am
I suppose to some extent I suffer from Brain Vain and Space Glutton. I know I tend to cut across others who are talking when I know what they are going to say. This needs fixing and I have been working on it for some time. I hope the software implant will help!
December 18th, 2006 at 12:19 pm
All I need to do is to go to one meeting… and as with the very honest Steve below, sometimes I play the role/s well! Probably not Righteous and Sightless and hardly ever Lazy Critic, but the other two can be guilty pleasures, and I am trying to give them up!
December 15th, 2006 at 12:39 pm
I have jsut witnessed a space glutton at work critising a lazy critic that othes know. Know an old brain vain that won’t change, last boss! Not sure about the last maybe the old boss as well!
December 7th, 2006 at 5:23 pm
I know of so many people who fit in to these examples.
How many times have I sat thru meeting after meeting with Brain vain, Righteous & Sightless , Space Glutton & Lazy Critic. Now I realise why so much time was wasted.
December 6th, 2006 at 12:31 am
great titles…they’re everywhere…and sometimes they are me!!